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Journal Entry: Sat Jan 25, 2014, 12:06 PM




 Ok, so just throwing this out there,  perhaps this will be an unpopular view, but  I don't think I'm being unreasonable.

I'd just like to mention publicly, that I, as well as artists in general, are not art vending machines.

You don't type suggestions in, and then have a slot where artwork comes out for free :meow: .

   Important to Note: I am not addressing any individual in particular. If you think this is about *you* specifically ( whoever you are)- don't. This about the private notes I get, with alarming volume, where people feel they can simply request artwork from me for free. I get a *lot* of these.  Which prompted me to post something about it. I usually just ignore them, or, if I feel particularly polite that day, I send them a note back saying I don't do requests.

But they never stop o_O. And it's not that I mind suggestions in comments under artwork, such as: "Oh, I hope one day you will paint _________." or, " I'd love to see ________ in your style. "

But a lot of people are sending me private notes, (that I like to use for more important things- like money :iconpervplz:) and the sheer entitlement in some of them can be a bit daunting.  Maybe it's a difference in interpretation, or cultural differences, but I find some of the tone of these notes a bit rude :/.   i.e:

 "I don't like that you don't draw my fandom! You know what you should be painting? You should be painting what I like! Because if you did that, you would get more popular than you are now! People would like your artwork a LOT more!!"

or

" I'm writing to you because I need a painting done for my fan site! But I want it to be like *insert thumbnail of a commission I did where someone paid me a few hundred dollars*. Also, could you do a few character paintings for my descriptions?  Thx k. Let me know when you'll be able to get it done! I'll be waiting!"

of course, no money is involved.

No. :stare:

I have no idea who you are, and I have to say, I'm just curious why you think I would just produce free artwork for you on your command, when other people (individuals, companies) pay me for that?

I have a stamp on my profile page that clearly states I don't take Requests. I take commissions (sometimes..when I think I can fit them in). I put that stamp on my profile a year ago, and it seems to have no effect lol.


So whenever you think about writing an artist (writer, stock model, ANY artist), please think before you hit send. Ask yourself a few questions:

1. "Would I walk into a dentists office and expect him to give me 6 free veneers, working on my mouth for 2 weeks, for absolutely nothing?"

No? Oh. Well maybe an artist wouldn't work for nothing either.. :o.

2. Ask yourself, "Do I pay bills?"

If your answer is no, stop writing that note to that artist you don't personally know. Just close that browser window. It's safe to assume, that even though you don't have any bills, that perhaps, the artist who's time you think your entitled to, MIGHT.  In fact, it's notoriously difficult to be an artist :[ . So paying bills is a very real concern for us ( as it is for most people who live on their own).

Also, there are MANY working artists out there.  Deviantart popularity doesn't always mean an artist is either not working in art, or not dependent on art for livelihood. I know of people here that don't have a ton of watchers, but regularly work in art industries, or just use it as a means to supplement income.

If people like doing requests, that's great! If you don't mind when people note you demanding freebies, all the more power to you. But this is just a little journal, suggesting people think a bit before writing a complete stranger to give them their time, efforts, skill etc for free.

I do not need anyone to write me apologizing either. So please don't. I'm really not speaking about anyone in particular. This has been happening to me ( and I bet, others) for a long time. That's all.

So perhaps look on an artists page. Look for indicators if they do requests. Some people do them for fun, it's true.

Writing people assuming that they have been waiting their entire lives, have gone to school just to provide you with artwork that other people pay for- probably not going to be well received.

Just saying.

Thank you for listening :iconfabulousplz:.

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FatalSystemCrash Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This happen'd to me in the past, very clear REQUESTS: CLOSED
Why? I'm lazy XD I couldn't take something that I know I'll not do because I like to do what I want, I like my characters, I did 2 requests to a pair of persons and none of then thanked me, I've took my time to do them... NEVER ANYMORE ><
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InkDrawnDreamer Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Student General Artist
Thank you for this! I had this experience a lot after I did a few requests and then closed them. I stated multiple times on my page that I don't take them anymore, and I still kept getting people asking for them. (Though most of them took the 'no' very well). I'm saddened to hear that so many other people deal with this. Good grief. It seems that artists more than many other professions tend to get railroaded a lot, or treated like "art vending machines" as you put it.
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014
 Yep lol :nod:
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InkDrawnDreamer Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014  Student General Artist
Hopefully people will learn better.
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Nemerida Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Student General Artist
I wonder if this (freebie requests) mostly torments fanartists, or people that have done a few shiny fanarts. :iconthinkingplz:
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LeahPlainAndTallish Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Someone asked me to draw his penis last week. Sorry his 'big penis'. For free. I didn't know whether to be amused or horrified. He sent me a pic for 'reference'.

I love this site but good god almighty the entitled requests I get can become annoying.
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Aerodil Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Gah, that must be so annoying! I hope this will clear things up. If not, I hope you can make the note-senders see how annoying and demanding it is. I am a writer, but I can just imagine how time-consuming a painting or two is O.O
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Hunting-wolf Featured By Owner May 28, 2014
This journal is gold :D I've heard of things similar to this happening to others too, and it's too bad. Because it's basically a waste of time for both sides :b Perhaps the people writing such things don't know exactly what they're doing/know what they're asking for, so a little awareness on that point is good.
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K-Koji Featured By Owner May 28, 2014
 :3
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ctang15 Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow ... you seem intimidating :nuu: I don't see how people could request free art from you either; I'd curl up in the fetal position at the mere though of noting you :o
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014
 o_O lol. You must be new :XD:.

 Im the least intimidating person in the world. I think these types of people just write everyone and anyone :/ . Its more about their ignorance and entitlement than anything else. I think they send notes to many people and see what comes back.
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ctang15 Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ahh ok then ... ^^; I wouldn't call them entitled though, 'cos they don't really expect that you would or should accept ... :icondummywooplz: They just hope to get lucky anyways and I don't think they whine about it not being fair if they don't :aww:
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014
 Yes. Yes some actually do o_o lmao.

 I know it's weird and hard to understand, but that's why I wrote the journal. Because it gets so common that its unbelievable D:. And since, the journal, its significantly stopped :D
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ctang15 Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ohhhh .... :o

I think I understand it, but I find it hard to believe it actually happens :nuu: I guess I kinda envy you 'cos I still can't imagine people wanting my art to be annoying and frustrating ^^; But I'm hardly new to learning that things I once thought were awesome just turns out to be annoying eventually, like having pets :iconnoeswooplz: So I'd probably be getting my just desserts once I'm in your shoes :dummy:
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Passin Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014
Guess I'm lucky not to be any good;D
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r3nisa Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014   Digital Artist
:iconthisplz:

It's even worse when they note you saying: I know you don't take requests, but maybe you'll make an exception ^^

=A= Why would I take the time to do your request when I can work on my own personal projects...
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014
 some people just have a sense of entitlement :shrug:
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The-Happy-Mortician Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Bless my anonymity and sheer lack of skill, I don't catch this sort of nonsense.
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Nefairyious Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Heh. I run into this problem occasionally and I'm nowhere near as prolific an artist as you. I can only imagine how many insane requests an artist like you gets! There are some people out there who act very entitled!
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Meggie272 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I don't think people are fully aware of the fact that there's an actual person with an actual life and actual needs and responsibilities putting huge amounts of time and effort into the pretty images they are passively consuming...artist aren't just machines with buttons that you press until art falls out. 
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014
 true dat :huggle:
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Sakura-ShinRa Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Welcome to Dealing With Humans.  Human beings are the most entitled, self-obsesed, narcissistic species on the planet! I mean, you don't get constant demands from the hairy padagonian armadillos now do you?  No, you don't! Possibly because padagonian armadillos can't use a computor but STILL, my point is made! *poses*
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AliceFlame Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014
Put the stamps all the way to the top of your profile or maybe put maaaaaad stamps all over the place LOLLLL
i'm sure they're gonna have to see it and maybe finally realize that you don't take requests 
I hope these people will stop bothering youu :I
hang in therereerererrrrr
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FoxMaiden04 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I would love to commission and do requests for points, but my drawings aren't at a level I'm confident to charge XD getting there though, huge inspirations like you and my other D.A family let me learn. P.s- (sorry if I'm bothering you I was just curious, not a request XD) is d.a reliable with me using my card for points? I'd love to donate to my friends who need it but I don't want to risk having my money stolen from me T-T
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014
 Sorry, I don't know much about DA points :o . The ones I have were given to me. I don't bother with points on DA, I just take Paypal.

 Though I;m sure it must be a secure transaction to purchase them through the site :o. Paypal is another way :nod:
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FoxMaiden04 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've been told to do PayPal it confused me, I might do the d.a point thing
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Xenobiacat Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
Speaking as someone who has happily paid nearly three-hundred dollars to have your brilliant work represent my ideas, I could not be happier with your efforts or the results.  You interacted with me during the process to be sure it was what I wanted, you offered a discount when you thought I wasn't happy, and you did everything you could to make sure I got my money's worth.  Anyone that would try to say you don't deliver what you charge for would be a bald-faced liar, and I'm sure you could probably charge more than you do for your commissions if you really wanted to.  What you do is well above standard, and you deserve compensation for it and no small measure of respect.  You are one of the nicest people I know, Koji, and I will happily shred the first bastard that tries to say otherwise.
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Chaosbayne Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2014
I second most of this (I simply haven't had the money to spare. THE BILLS!! OH GOSH THE BILLS!! :iconimdeadplz:).
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
 :huggle: thank you .-.
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PankakeCarnivor Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Student
I feel you. I mean, it's one thing if someone is being polite or inquiring, but it's a whole different ballpark when you get demanding and snarky entitled people like that. I'm sorry.

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primalfuryan Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Professional General Artist
Why is it even the most benign, reasonable journal gets rage?
Its simple people are born with rage incorporated in them ,to them DA is not selling site but here are tons(at least 500)artist that are earning livelihood from DA ,but then there is class that sell art at random pace(like myself 2-3 painting less profit  less money) then its keeps going down to down to down but even the lowest artist feel he or she want profit for example like :iconkaze-hime: or the :iconyuumei: and so many i can write that are the top like :iconnebezial:,  :iconleonidafremov: they make art, sell it and are on top of the list of their respective genres so who said the site is not professional , although it is also having a lot amateur artist but that doesn't mean :iconspyed: created it for no reason , donation are electric points , whereas art sale is something totally else (its dollars received by you)
I belive :iconk-koji: you are to be considered in those +500 artist that are leading site with your awesome art , and everyone ,anyone should know that your art cant be free because you work damn hard on it and this can be treated as job as time is money , however if you want to give art to someone for free yourself that is another thing, but asking ,requesting and demanding art is act that should not be done anyone(except if you want to give it yourself as discretionary authority). stay well!:hug:
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
 thanks :huggle:

 I believe artists work hard, and they network- to say Deviantart is useless and all artist should gtfo is silly. There are many professional artists with profiles here. :o
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primalfuryan Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Professional General Artist
Lets talk in math , time = money
Professional art = 24 hour job = for example 100 dollar = art price 
To prove my point i can name the artist that wrote ,"we can make art as profession ,its our job so no donation needed buy our art thats all"
But because Devianart.com is open art site people thing it has one layer only it can be seen as multi storey building
1-First floor for all
2-For premium users
3-For selling art artist
4-For extreme selling artist
5-Top Tier ,that can see through roof of this building
In short take care of your health and don't let the 1st floor make you angry , seeya later dear!:hug:
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
 :huggle:

 That was really a cool analogy :o
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moni158 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Student Filmographer
I feel your pain.... :iconimdyingplz:

People will probably just keep doing it anyway, even if you make a journal but I'm sure it helps to vent. This stuff can get really under your skin sometimes...

I had one who sent me their character info and had the nerve to give me a deadline ( with the expectation it would be free ) 
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
 hahaha I've had that happen to me. It was like 6 paragraphs of description, links to sketches...

 and then " I need this by Friday, ok?"


 just :iconheaddeskplz:

 and it doesnt actually make me angry... I just find it a "wtf" thing. Then i wrote a journal :o. I probably shouldnt have, but oh well. lol
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moni158 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Student Filmographer
I think some people don't realise drawing something and following references carefully is really time consuming and takes a lot of concentration. So I can't really get mad at them but its does get a bit frustrating.

Say whatever you need to say, your journal is for you to speak your mind and/or vent :D
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
 
 Exactly. Some things take a lot of time, and concentration. I guess it's that idea some people think we popped paintings out of our arses and it involves no real work that can be a bit off-putting :XD:
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pyroute Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I love you so much...
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scarykurt Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
lol, this kinda made me laugh! I'm a papercrafter myself, that generally only works on characters from the Okami franchise, just for fun! But i constantly get requests for cartoon and game characters i've never even heard off, but people expect me to somehow still do it for the love of it!
would say though, that DA does have alot of kids on it and sometimes they get excited and don't think before they type!
And hey, at least you know they're all loving your style.
Hope this blog helps in some way to stop their requests for you :)
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
 :hug:
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Qihah Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
So perhaps look on an artists page. Look for indicators if they do requests.

This is really true. We should take a closer look at the artist's profile. Don't just send them notes and expect magic.
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
 Or at the very least, if you send a note, ask " Do you ever take requests?"

 ^ thats not bad at all o_o.
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Qihah Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014
True, politeness matters. I would be very upset if I have like a bunch of projects and commissions and someone just tell me what should I do and what should I draw. We don't live to serve and please every organism on Earth. You cannot always get what you want.


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otakudontgiveup Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Truth be told, I don't know all the characters you draw but I like them just the same. Yes I have a few favorites but your artwork is plain lovely to the eye.  It is obvious you put a lot of time and effort into them and people can't put full effort into something that they don't like or don't know.  Whatever you draw I am happy to see it in my watch list so keep drawing what you want, it's working!  Kyouko Toshinou (Fantasy) [V2] 
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
 oh thank you :huggle:
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IllyDragonfly Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014   Writer
Oooh, you have that problem too! I read another great artist complaining a bit about it. 
Maybe those people just 'suggested' with too much energy... but indeed if they become too many and too demanding it can be really frustrating. Maybe you can just ignore the questions about people who are oo annoying and put another stamp on your profile like 'I don't take suggestions for my art' 'Requests will be ignored!' or similar. I usual look at the stamps and if I see many which say very firmly things like 'I DON'T do requests' 'Don't beg for stuff' I get immediately that this person hasn't time to waste with free requests and stuff.
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
 I have a stamp D:

 Maybe I need more stamps lol
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IllyDragonfly Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014   Writer
Just two! :XD: They don't look enough plain, it seems. :giggle: 
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
 I need moooreeeeeeee lol. I just don't want my profile to be ugly and obnoxious lol
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