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Critiquing Strangers?

Journal Entry: Tue Mar 11, 2014, 8:43 AM

 I had a thought while I was painting ( first time for everything! Derp 8D ).

Often on Deviantart, through the piles of thumbnails we all are exposed to, I find myself in a random persons gallery. A person I have never interacted with, and who probably wouldn't know me if I came through their monitor and bit their face.

" lol Hai, I'm Koji :crazy: *CHOMP*"..the horror."

And while looking through their artwork, I see the same "mistakes" ( to my eye anyways) like a glaring sign, over and over.  For example, I happened upon someone's gallery and I realized all the noses they draw look like lion noses ( no, they aren't drawing furries ;P ). They're drawing humans, and attempting realism. Thing is, this is a very easy fix. In fact, if they just moved the bridge of the nose in on their work, it would all look a LOT better. Their drawings would receive more attention, and overall it would be positive.

I'm not talking about stylistic things either. It's not subject matter, it's not the type of art- It's just something, if only they had added a cranium on that person. The art would look pretty good- but they just need to draw that ONE line further out D:

Do you say something to them?

I almost never give critiques. I don't think I'm very good at them. I'm not good at eloquently writing a long paragraph or anything, and often I can't explain myself very well. I'm someone who can only put a piece into Photoshop, and draw a diagram of what I mean :XD:.

But so many people on Deviantart get insulted by a complete stranger posting on their work, saying something even teensy that is truly designed to help them.

See, usually Deviantart is filled to the brim with awful critiques. People have told me "OMG I don't think he should look like that!!11 I envisioned him differently! So it sucks and you failed >:[ *raaggggeeeeee*"

..and then you tell them, that it's fine if they don't like my interpretation. They are free to draw their own, and I get:

" OMGAD u r so stuck up you horrible human >:[!!11 U cannot accept critique!!"

I think it's made a lot of people a bit timid when it comes to asking for opinions here. When you ask for a critique on Deviantart, I feel you are very brave. Because it's like playing russian roulette, except the gun has 5 bullets in a 6 bullet chamber :XD: . As for myself, I usually only ask opinions of people I know, talk to and trust their eye.

SO all this had me wondering now-  if  it's a scenario like what I said initially, where you come across an artist who's art could take a giant leap forward if they just did a very easy fix-

Would you tell them?

Would you want someone to tell you something like that about your work?

Would you get offended because you don't know them?

 I was just curious what people think of this, because I always opt out LOL. I always just think, nah. And stick to my own stuff and do my own thing.

random jazz hands~~~ :iconfabulousplz:

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DoomWinter Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2016
Hey, since this is on the subject of critiques, I have a suggestion for all those non-core members who wish they could get a critique too:
In the description, write in caps (and maybe put emotes on either side of it) that you are requesting critique. Make the request noticeable somehow.

Then, for the people who notice the request and want to give a critique, do so and say what you wish (Provided that it is constructive of course). You could even arrange this as you wish to make it look more like a critique than a comment, and use emotes for the 5 star system. You can get creative with this!

So, I hope this suggestion helps some of the non-cores out there. ^w^
FatalSystemCrash Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I would like someone tell me where are my mistakes :c I'm beginner so I really need it XD obviously, A critic in a kindly way ^^
EpicNinjaArtist Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love it when people make meaningful comments about my work, pointing out their favorite parts, and things i could fix, because it means they really got into it, and seriously are looking at and analyzing my work.
Anybody can say nice job, or that looks cool
but it doesnt really mean much to me, no matter how hard i look at it .-.

I prefer it when people really look at my work, instead of just brisking over it.
But in such a vast community, its hard for people to come and take the time to leave meaningful comments when they can just say "cool" and move on :XD:

Ive only had one person bluntly say my work sucked, which seriously offended me at first (given it was my very first hate comment. Im so proud of myself :'D ) but then i just ignored it and moved on. Because why waste my time on something like that? Not saying that my artwork deserves a mass of compliments or anything, but something a little more in depth then "its f*cked up* would be nice XD That isnt a critique lol.

But if someone has something to say about my work i will gladly listen to any suggestions :) Lol, i actually find critiques a  compliment XD
So hardcore, know =u=
jk, im pretty wussy QuQ but i do appreciate critique a lot. They actually care enough to help me get better :iconcraiplz:
forest-of-fire Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I actually came on deviantart for tutorials and advice, so I would be very happy if someone gave me a hint about something that I should improve, but I also want an explanation why is that thing bad, otherwise I will ignore the comment. and I would like to request critique, but I'm not premium member :(
but I don't write critiques, because I'm not good enough and also because I sometimes unintentionally insult people when they ask me for opinion (till now they were only my schoolmates, but I won't risk spam on my account)

my real problem is not getting any comments except of few ''Nice job!'' stuff instead of stupid haters comments.
Tuckwoo Featured By Owner May 31, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I personally wouldn't get offended if someone critiqued my work, in fact, I'd love it if they did, so that I would be able to improve it!! I really wouldn't mind any critique
(I actually sometimes critique strangers myself but I always try to be as polite about it ss I can)
Hoshigetsu Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wish people would tell me what is wrong so I could fix or. I wish I could request critiques but that's only an option for members.... :( 
DestatiDreamXIII Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Personally, I like critiques. There are many people that write terribly immature critiques, unfortunately, but I really do appreciate the ones where the person genuinely just wants to help/give advice. Sometimes I don't follow the advice because I end up preferring how I was doing things before, while other times they really help me notice something I should work on.  Overall, I'm grateful for any and all well-intended critiques I may receive, but also either decide for myself or test out the advice before deciding if it's a piece of advice I want to take to heart. 
topcat-sama Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Somehow I find myself critiquing strangers a lot :o

It just happens while I go through my watch stacks and I see something that could have been good or is almost really amazing but just isn't because of an elbow or something.  I usually use the sandwich method while critiquing, where I complement there art but "xxx" looks a bit wrong and might look better if you tried "xxx". And then I follow up with another complement that way I'm usually guaranteed to not sound harsh to the person I'm critiquing.

As for when I am critiqued, usually I try to take everyone's advice regardless of artistic ability but I would definitely hold someone's advice with more weight if they were more artistically inclined. 
Spudfuzz Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2014
It really depends. I'll usually communicate I have some kind of issue with the work and my usual watcher base/ friends that comment and interacts with me on a regular basis are mature, and I trust their judgement. Even if they don't really hit the target with it I still appreciate it because they tried. Because I know them I take their feedback in higher regard than some other random person's, unless said random person is really good. The other day though someone said to me offsite;

"By the way I looked through your gallery and you're always "it's not good enough", "it's not the best", blah blah blah, stop that already ;)"

I double checked to look through my gallery and I couldn't find what they were talking about. Maybe it was on my super old art, I don't know. But it kind of pissed me off because the only reason I voice discontent with my art is to communicate to my audience that I understand it's not perfect and encourage feedback, and I most certainly don't do it in that whiny - lack of self confidence mentality like they implied. If someone critiques me and I feel like what they said is just stupid or completely off base, I'll ignore them. Sometimes, rarely but sometimes they'll step over the line and illicit a very asshole response from me. If I'm going to critique some random person's art though I'll look through their profile page or artist description. If they don't indicate or outright state any willingness for feedback I don't bother. If they're a beginner though and it's obvious they're trying, drawing all kinds of subjects and never sticking to one comfort zone there's a very good chance they'll take critique well.
K-Koji Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2014
 Hmm, maybe that person was just trying to be nice, or are exaggerating. Like, maybe they heard you say something like that ONCE and not actually a lot lol.
 Or maybe they mistook you saying you're always moving forward and striving to get better as " complaining its not good enough".

 I've said things about my own work, usually; " It's not bad. I like this part, but this could be better". And some people have interpreted that into " Omg why do you hate all your own work?" .

 People can be odd that way lol.
Spudfuzz Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2014
They probably think they were trying to be nice but it still got under my skin because people who actually do the whole "haha my art sucks" in the description genuinely annoy me. Like if I say it's bad I will at least say why I think it is and nit pick flaws. I didn't really respond to them anyway because I know there's a change they didn't intend to come off that way, but I don't want to get into a debate and be perceived as someone who can't handle a critique.

" Omg why do you hate all your own work?" .

Eurgh I've had that too sometimes. I think my response to people saying that would be to ask them the same question. Do they genuinely like all their art 100%? If no, why? Then there's the answer. 
 I think it just boils down to not understanding the concept of perspectives. As I keep improving I'm going to keep holding myself to higher and higher standards because it's the only way I'll get anywhere.  What looks crap to me in my art might look great to them but I'm still not under any strange divine obligation from the pearly gates above to agree. :v
KeanKennedy Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2014   General Artist
great journal, echoes many of my thoughts.
The other day someone was asking about perspective in his drawing, and I drew a diagram because I thought: if you just see these lines you'll get it.
But he'd specifically asked on the forums. I've never actually thought of explaining stuff to random people before- probably because most of the time it isn't just one glaring thing or whatever, there are a bunch of issues.
I definitely agree about the nonsense critiques. It's not just about difference of style, it's like people go into a mode where it's more about the act of critiquing than having any actual wisdom to share.
They call out random stuff, sometimes the best bits of the image... really frustrating to read people getting misguided advice, often from those less skilled than themselves. -.-

It's a funny thing though... compared to other disciplines, art is a weirdly solo learning experience for most.  People end up making mistakes that can be corrected easily- because they see art books that are densely packed with info and balk. I wanna say we should teach each other more often, because then people get a steady flow of bitesize information as opposed to a fat textbook on their desk... but I will still feel awkward about randomly giving my opinion, and still probably won't turn on critique requests on the offchance someone will actually say something helpful lol.
K-Koji Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2014
 I've done that before here and there for people on the forums. It always feels like a gamble.

 And yeah, I agree with your observations about critiques here on DA. Some people truly think critiquing means trying to find something wrong, then pointing it out. I've had people say to me " I've looked at this so much, and usually you're stuff is so good, but I finally found a mistake!!" . And then that "mistake" is merely a way I interpreted something that differs from their vision.
  My stuff is filled with things that could be better, as is a lot of artwork. But people zero-ing in on some small leaf in the back isn't helpful lol.
 I've seen people give "critiques" where they basically flame the artwork. It's that school of thought that you have to break the artist down. Then they tell them tips, but the tips were horribly wrong., and its usually done by someone who doesn't have a high skill level, and who has no business acting like an art God :/
artratene Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I would not tell them unless I knew them, and I wouldn't want a stranger to crit my work, because I don't know what kind of background they have in art, or how many years they've been doing it, blah blah blah.  I kinda would get offended, depending on the situation.  If I asked for a crit, then okay.  but if some stranger just randomly came up to me, with me knowing nothing about their background in art. ,I Would be offended. But I can always look on their dA profile.
silvermoon442 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It depends on who they are. If I'm just a random person, it'd be odd. And I'd never criticize someone who has better artistic skills than me- that would be hypocritical! But if you came along and critiqued my work, I would take it as the word of God!
BumpyTheShroom Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Professional General Artist
I tell people when I see stuff, and likely BECAUSE I would be thrilled if someone would do that for me. X3 In example: Someone pointed out that I should break up my line work, it did a world of difference for my work. I am a happier camper because of that.
LadyJuxtaposition Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I had to critique in my art drawing classes, because we were required to, and I know what you're saying. My classmates are strangers to me even after getting to know them. I'm not good at critiquing as well, but whenever I do, I try to bring out a positive out of a comment. For example, looking at a charcoal piece that lacks achromatic value, I would say, "You need to get darker in some areas that needed it so you can get the brightest lights, but at least you got great gradient smoothing techniques and the perspective is precise and convincing."

There is no need for harsh criticism unless they are respectively constructive and helpful to improve artists' skills. I take them every time and use them to my advantage, and I just ignore the negative and disrespectful ones that I could even care less.
K-Paro Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2014  Student
As long as the criticism is constructive anyone who is serious about getting better at drawing should be happy to receive it. Personally anyway, it bothers me when people who could help me better my drawing just say 'oh yeah it looks great' to avoid hurting feelings.

Exception being if something is done deliberately because it happens to be part of their drawing style (ex. Someone purposely giving people longer legs) as I imagine getting criticisms constantly on something you like and are doing intentionally would get old.
muslacrima Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2014
Personally, as long as you're not being really rude, I would really appreciate critiques.
As long as you don't end up with a laundry list of really, really specific (and maybe useless) things that need to be fixed (then again, that would probably take a lot of effort on the critic's part as well), I'll definitely take the advice into consideration.
Auriaslayer Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2014
I like to receive critiques. I try to think the good advise beyond it, even if its a destructive critique (and sometimes people gave me that, but I just try to reply politely and apreciate what they didn't like if it's a real mistake).
To give a critique... is more dificult for me. I always want to help everybody talking about their work in a constructive way, but for that I need to express myself in a hole big paragraph. Sometimes I don' have the enough time to write it, and to decide to write it or not I look at the artist actitude. If I see her/him open-minded, I don't hesitate to tell them my opinion.
LamiaeBlackstone Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2014  Student Writer
I feel that anyone that posts their work here should be prepared to receive critique. I post my writings on here hoping for such a thing, I want feedback to know if I can write well enough to get fans or if I still need to work on it. I accept any critique that I can get, even bad reviews can be helpful.
I critique people all the time on their stories, I tell them if they made a grammar mistake or if a sentence is jumbled and doesn't make sense, I get a lot of hate mail for doing that, but I'm not doing it to be mean I am just trying to help them. I think what helps people take criticism is when you comment on the good parts as well.
GrnDrgn Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
If they ask for it, give it, if they don't on most occasions they really don't want it.  I understand your generosity and I love your art and kind heart but people are generally shallow by nature and don't like the truth.  If you give them advice do it subtly in a way that shows the solution vs criticizes any particular piece of work.  Good luck on your dillema. 
morikun-rinari Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Student Artist
To me it all boils down to the kind of art that is being critiqued. I'm more open to feedback on a drawing assignment that's focused on building technical skill because, in the case of an academic setting, that's when I see it as an opportunity to get some advice from my peers and the instructor. In more personal cases such as my original character drawings I'm not so much open to it since it is drawn from my imagination. In addition I'm pretty stubborn over my original work since I have to go through several layers of research and rely on personal decisions for my project(s) to progress.

When I'm lacking in skills such as human anatomy and strongly aware of it, I have to work with what i currently know and try hard to make it look "correct". Since I'm aware of errors somewhere in my drawings, I don't really need anyone to point it out for me. Additionally, there's a lot of back story and other work that happens "behind the scenes" of my artwork. A thorough, well written critique on my personal work/project should take things such as characterization and general motifs associated with the character into consideration.
A comment such as "the raven thing looks so cliche/stupid/emo/overdone" doesn't help.
Overall, when it comes to character illustrations, the only feedback I'd really need is constructive criticism and/or their impressions of the character.
Rina-ran Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've seen the type of people you speak about, but haven't really ran into them myself. If I did, I'd probably just shrug pass it cause so very little really phases me.

If I see the mistake often enough, yeah, I sometimes do say something "Hi random stranger. [Critique]. [but what I do like]" and I'm out of there. No long paragraphs are needed. Someone did that to me out of the blue on several of my pictures in the past. I didn't agree on some of the things, but thanked them anyway.
VonDiezyl Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I appreciate all feedback I get because a lot of the time, other people can see things that I may not have seen in my own work. It wouldn't matter to me if the person was random, if someone is taking the time to write a critique for me then I'm going to be pretty happy regardless.

I think that critiques are something that people shouldn't be afraid of ~ in the end it's just an opinion and the artist receiving it gets to decide whether they wish to listen or not. And if you get a crap critique? Well don't post it on your pic :)

So if you happened upon my gallery and told me that I draw hands too small (which I sometimes do XD) or something like that, I would appreciate it because you've taken the time to help me out :3
firegodessreiko Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014
I think you seem gentle and objective enough that if you were to critique, for example, the 'lion noses', the person would not be offended...and even if they were, that's not on you.

It's a bit iffy giving critique when it isn't asked for, there is that.

If it were me, I'd prolly leave a comment like, "Hey this looks awesome overall! Seems like maybe you're struggling a bit with the nose shape a bit...if you moved that cranial line out juuuuust a might get more of the look you were going for...But again, AWESOME over all."

Ya know? something unthreatening like that?
inuko93 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Student General Artist
For me I take into consideration every comment that is posted on my deviations. I may not agree with them all the time, but I read and carefully consider every single one. I actually prefer getting comments that critique my work as opposed to, "I like this, it's so cool." Actually the few people who will comment on my work generally give me some really good advice and it's helped a lot (it's easily view-able from my old deviations to what I can do now c: )

If I come across an artist who I can tell has the potential to improve, I try to explain my critiques the best I can and word them so that they don't come off as arrogant or extremely mean or anything like that. Critiquing is something that's hard to get used to at first, but generally people appreciate them as long as you're not like , "Oh gawd why does his nose look so weird?!!"
I usually say something nice that is going on in the picture, and some things that aren't working so well and try to give them suggestions on how to improve. c: 
Viddadoc Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Hobbyist
...either way, take criticism in a good or bad way, once you put his brain in move with respect to the matter, will be a help... like it or not...
northstarceo Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with Sakura-ShinRa. But I'm always open to critiques. All people act differently when approached with critiques.
Sakura-ShinRa Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I think you should absolutely say something, but it's how you say it that you have to be careful of.  I see the same things, for example, people often make their heads too flat at the back of the skull and it drives me CRAZY! XD
Equilonic Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Actually, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. I used to receive critiques from people who couldn't get their point across and I should say that was a waste of everybodys time, since I haven't understood it and they couldn't explain V.V . If you cannot explain what you're saying it just comes oput that you don't know what you're talking about and just trolling. Also some people might just do art as fun hobby and don't really care if they improve.
If you're not good with words picture would be nice - as someone who used to write pages long criticism on people drawings when asked, I know that a picture can be worth 1000 words.
If you're really wanted to help them you could make some sort of useful guideline for them. Make it personal and all about their art (not yours), so it shows you care not trolling (eg. instead of showing them how you'd do it, take their own picture and edit it to show how it can be improved). Be polite and try to use simple words - there are many foreigners on DA and not everyone's English vocabulary is good enough to go into technical terms (for example, they might not know what's "cranium"). Also tell them what you like about their drawings after you've criticised it.
Alternatively, you can write something like "Hi! I think your art is great, but I noticed one small mistake and if you'd improve it your art would be absolutely stunning. Would you like to know what it is?". That leaves it up to them and if they answer to this post they totally sign up for everything you drop on them. :evillaugh:
I also only give criticism if asked. V.V
scarlette13 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014
One more thing, if you critique someone, you can say what they do wrong. But also say how it could be fixed/improved. I gave many critiques and no one complained so far. People tend to accept constructive criticizm even if they donīt like critiques.;)
scarlette13 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014
I get critiqued by people I never heard about. Sometimes, it feels that I donīt want to hear what they say, but I try to accept the criticizm. As long as I donīt know what Iīm doing wrong, how can I improve?

So I ask for critiques and Iīm trying to find some tips for improvement in every of them. Itīs hard because art is hobby for me, not something I plan to do professinally and some people critique me like I was supposed to be professional artist. But even when critique hurts, I read it at least. Whatīs there to lose? A little bit of self dignity? Ok, I can deal with that. Because when I try their advices, I can see difference. Iīm trying something new and sometimes it works surprisingly well. For those who arenīt as skilled as you, itīs better to listen critiques. Yes, not all critiques are constructive but even with chance of 5 bullets in 6 bullets chanber, itīs wothy risking. Trisk is in ignoring negative, non constructive critiques.
And when you listen, when you imrpove, when you keep trying, one day critique on your story says that they thought youīre native Englsih speaker despite youīre not. (personal experience)

So, I vote for giving tips to artist and listening to critiques from others. It doesnīt work everytime but why not trying. Itīs not like with real russian roulette. Worst thing is that person whom you give critique will send you to hell (and it hurts like 10 seconds while youīll reading their ungrateful comment) or that youīll get useless critique and all you have to do is throw it over your shoulder.:)
Meggie272 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I don't critique anyone. I don't feel like I'm good enough to tell anyone else how to change their work, even if I feel that there are some fairly blatant mistakes. 
WhiteRaven90 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Professional General Artist
Ask them if they would like to read your critique. Politeness does wonders. If they don't want to, it's their loss. If they want to, continue being polite - don't openly degrade them for having made mistakes, just point out the things you would like to comment on, and give them ideas on how to improve them. Wish them a nice day or something in the end.
Elena-Dio-miu Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Professional General Artist
As for me I never tell that to the artist. Halfly cause of the idiom "if you dislike it so try to make it by yourself and let us see if it goes out better" (I'm not quite sure about the certain form of the phrase) but mostly because I'm afraid of a wicked flame that may fall down to my poor head if I would try too. I see sometimes that my critics may really help not cause I'm an absolute prof but cause it could be a view from outside.But as I said I'm already alarmed with negative experience. As for my artworks  I tell everyone by the inscriptions above them that I would like to receive constructive critics and happily I get a lot. I've only hidden one single comment as it was not about the artwork itself but in a bad manner told me I'd better remove the watermark from it. I considered that it's not that commentators term and was sad with that words so I've hidden them to not embaress other observers!  (Sorry for my English. I hope you understand what I'm writing Sweating a little... )
To-Ka-Ro Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Professional General Artist
I used to give critiques when I wasn't asked; however, on multiple occasions, the artists I talked to would get very defensive, even when I was being as tactful as possible. While I think it's fine to disagree with a critique , but saying things like "I'm not going to change this" is sorta like stomping your foot in conversation, when the other person is trying to help. I sometimes question critiques I'm given, but I never say that even when the person is being pushy; I always thank them for their time and tell them I'll think about it. (I'm not saying do this when someone is being a jerk though, there's a difference between that and critiquing)

Now, I just stick to giving critiques when it's requested of me , or when it's requested in a group/forum setting (mostly).  
DamaiMikaz Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I often don't critique random people, unless they ask for it.
I've had enough occurrences already in which I got slandered just for trying to be helpful towards another artists. And to be honest, I think it's a waste of time and resources.

The other way around;
I like critique, as long as it's balanced and reasonable.
Some things are up to interpretation, some things are downwards wrong. I admit that, but I would like people to respect me on that.
And I wish some of DA's userbase would start to learn that "your art sucks" does not fall under constructive criticism. 
KURIZKURIZniKALAI Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Criticisms  are just words either  they are  constructive ones   or   bashing types.
It can either move  or crush an artist.

In MY OPINION ,  they are part of the learning process.
Anyhow, it's how you handle them.
                  I don't mind a stranger critiquing my works, I would appreciate it  in fact .

So feel free to drop by my gallery and start banging those keyboard  and thank you in advance. Love

But on the other hand, critiquing the work of a stranger is another story. 
Tricky actually coz everyone has their own opinion of their own artistry.

If their works are like awesome than mine I would zipped  my lips... hehe
I'm in no position to say  something other than "you're awesome :)".
However if It needed to be said,  then...
  • I'd simply critique it a matter -of-fact- manner, get to know the artist first.
  • Maybe check out the old stuff he/she posted  if I'm itching to  comment, I would start  by asking specifically what bothers me and maybe  he / she will reveal something and I guess I would slowly pitch in some advice or tutorial links if he/ she might be interested .Hopefully he/she won't get  offended.
  • If he/ she did get offended, well, that's how  they deal with it. As long as I acted in good faith and expressed it accordingly then I'm fine with it :heart:
Thanx for reading!
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KazzyMoyashi Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014
I have a couple artists that I watch on dA that I often offer some constructive criticism on. They don't ask for critiques, but I always make sure to balance what I think they might be able to improve on for their comic page or artwork, and then I also state what I truly love about the work. I don't think you should listen to those who are all "OMG I don't think he should look like that!!11 I envisioned him differently! So it sucks and you failed >:[ *raaggggeeeeee" - I stand by that those sorts of people are either trolls, attention whores, or self-centered/selfish since they just don't see what the artist is capable of. Instead of critiquing the art, they're simply looking for a quick way to have their opinion heard.
BabakoSen Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm not sure I'm fit to say anything because I would be the kind of person to just blurt it out (albeit politely, I think...I hope...), and simultaneously the kind of person who would be miffed if someone I didn't know waltzed in and said "your ___ sucks." I mean, I might be miffed at first, but as long as they said it politely and their work looked good enough for me to take them seriously, I'd thank them.
KURIZKURIZniKALAI Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well It gets annoying  though  there's just some people act as if they're superior and comment  that  your works sucks  and when you checked their works they draw stick people way crappier than yours.
You end up blurting like , " WHAT THE HELL? Really? hehe and just grinn. 
I realized that they were saying  that to themselves.  I guess they just wrote it in the wrong comment box :)
HystericalMellotron Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
There must be some balance, I think, when giving critiques to someone. Before saying anything, you should first look carefully at the picture/gallery in question, look at the most positive aspects, and them the negative ones. Them, you say to the person in question what you think he/she's doing right, and later, what's wrong and how to fix it. Also, we need to be careful with one more thing: aesthetics. There  is something that it can be very hard to do, which is knowing when something in the picture is either totally off, or if it has something to do with the way the artist likes to paint/draw/etc. y'know, his/her style.
But the thing is, I don't particularly give critiques, well at least not for most of the time. The last time I did was in a cool iron man fanart I've found, in which the coloring was pretty great, but his head was kinda small. I've said all that to the artist, and she was very polite, she wasn't like "omg!u just sayin' dat bc u suck and ur jealous".
As for myself, I try to take criticisms well for most of the time, but there's always some annoying shitty elitists here and there who says "you suck because you draw weird crapass manga", but saying that in fancy words instead, because y'know, they're too good to say "you suck" in less than 59055065964 words :iconohgeezplz:
LadyArtsy Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Unless it specifically states in the description "no critique please"  I won't post anything of the sort. But I always prided myself in my lengthy critiques when I was in school, in the long run I'd hoped someone would've done the same thing for me (more often than not, I was left with the single sentence of "I think it looks good") but I didn't want to hear that, I wanted to hear on how I could improve...I am not offended by critique even on pieces I placed a bit of my soul into, if there is some way in the future I can improve on works I absolutely adore hearing the bitter sweet news. 

I have yet to get a negative comment back on any of my comments containing critique...but I feel as an artists web site and community, we should be open to well thought out critique and help from our fellow artists. In saying "well thought out" I think some people equate critique with the ass hats who go about and bash someones work, when clearly that is not a critique or any kind of improvement suggestion on someone's they become scared of the term and close minded to improvement. 

Everyone should be open to improvement and help, thought its hard to hear sometimes, but you shouldn't be afraid of matter the skill level as long as you're proud of it nothing else matters. But I am rambling now, guh someone shut me up, I've been commenting and writing in length a lot lately. Any who yeah I completely welcome it, as long as its "well thought out".
KURIZKURIZniKALAI Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
totally agree with you :)
LadyArtsy Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well thanks, I mean critique is always welcomed in my book...its sad that its become such a horrible term on this site. 
Redbell9 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The only advices (I wouldn't really classify it as critique...) I've ever given on art were to a friend of mine when she asks for help or when I see she's struggling with something. Since we know each other well, we usually laugh at this one mistake or another and I try my best to help her fix it. The same thing happens when I'm the one that needs help.

I tend to be very inconsistent with my takes on critiques made on me. It usually depends on how I see the person. If it's a friend of mine that genuinely wants to help then I take the help gladly. If it's someone that's just complaining because it doesn't look like they want it to or because it's not "realistic enough" when that's not what I'm going for, then that just annoys me.

For many people I think, whether the critique is written properly or not affects how they react to it. If someone jumps right into pointing out your mistakes rather than politely say what they think is wrong and how to fix it, then I don't believe anyone would respond well unless they have a giant dose of patience and understanding.

If I see something wrong (in my opinion) that I want to help fix, then I would first ask that person if they wanted/needed help. Depending on their answer, I would try help or just carry on with my life.

I don't see drawing much like life. For example, if someone is about to commit suicide then I believe most people would go and try to convince them not to, or effectively stop them if they had to. The person in question could wish to be saved or not and could change their minds in the future, depending on how well their life has been going since then. But for drawing, I believe you should only help someone if they want help. Someone might actually like the imperfections of their drawing. It might not be pretty or accurate but they might think its just another thing that makes their drawing beautiful to their eye.

At least, that's how I see it. Sorry for the... bad example above but I really couldn't think of any other situation to compare it to @_@
priteeboy Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I critique stranger's gallery if I see they are making the same mistakes I once did. But that's easy for me to say since I look at a lot of landscape art and 3D art (I do a lot of both, character's have always been second-fiddle to me) and landscape artists and 3D artists do tend to be a little more mature, maybe because the subject itself is more appealing to older people than stuff like anime and semi-realism is is popular among a largely...younger kind of crowd ^^; Plus if their problem isn't so much with the picture itself but rather something that can easily be changed with some lighting or texture adjustments etc they're often grateful since they can improve their peice with very little effort and re-render it and it looks a lot better :D Landscape artists and 3D artists are a very small crowd compared to anime and character illustrators here. And artists from more obscure groups here tend to value each others opinions more since they're harder to come across in a sea of everybody doing something else. In really popular categories (like anime and anthro art) there seems to be an air of competition around many because there are so much others doing the same and they want to feel a little special about theirs I guess, so a critique can sting their ego much more easily.
H0me2tuckTra2h Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
you should totally go for it! name all the things they did great on 1st and then tell them how that 1 or few things could improve their art allot! and of course u could always look  at all there other replies and see if they are very edgey ^^
illuminatedflower Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Thankfully, I've never had to deal with someone who responded really nasty.

But If it's painfully obvious, it's a must, to critique. Like people should really look out for each other the same way, in art.
We're all here to feel better about ourselves.

And Yes, I would definitely want someone to critique me, politely. not like OFMGF!!! UR ART SUCKZ!!!! or something like that.
Cause I know I'm not perfect, but i definitely would like to get better!
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